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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-1865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charlie, 

Truth, many thanks for the response. I look forward seeing more of your musing. 

Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, </p>
<p>Truth, many thanks for the response. I look forward seeing more of your musing. </p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one and only thing I&#039;ve found to work is to lead by example. Trying to convince them with arguments is mostly just a waste of breath. 

If they get it, they get it. If they don&#039;t, there&#039;s not much you can do to change their mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one and only thing I&#8217;ve found to work is to lead by example. Trying to convince them with arguments is mostly just a waste of breath. </p>
<p>If they get it, they get it. If they don&#8217;t, there&#8217;s not much you can do to change their mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charlie, 

I just stumbled on your blog after searching &quot;fail fast, fail cheap&quot; in google. 

I enjoyed your insights. I was having a similar conversation with a friend who wanted to go back to school for writing. WRITING?! And I told her she should just start writing then, and to create a project for herself. 

I wanted to give her a plan, which is what brought me to your blog. I started thinking about how my friends and I have learned quickly and it came out something like... 1. Have a project to complete 2. Get advisers. 3. Find theoretical reading 4. Create a hands-on activity where you can experiment 5. surround yourself with people interested in the same subject.

I&#039;m curious, what methods have you found useful for convincing people to NOT go back to school?

Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, </p>
<p>I just stumbled on your blog after searching &#8220;fail fast, fail cheap&#8221; in google. </p>
<p>I enjoyed your insights. I was having a similar conversation with a friend who wanted to go back to school for writing. WRITING?! And I told her she should just start writing then, and to create a project for herself. </p>
<p>I wanted to give her a plan, which is what brought me to your blog. I started thinking about how my friends and I have learned quickly and it came out something like&#8230; 1. Have a project to complete 2. Get advisers. 3. Find theoretical reading 4. Create a hands-on activity where you can experiment 5. surround yourself with people interested in the same subject.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, what methods have you found useful for convincing people to NOT go back to school?</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Looking back at the IHTSBIH Tour, Part 2 of 2 &#171; Hoehn&#8217;s Musings</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking back at the IHTSBIH Tour, Part 2 of 2 &#171; Hoehn&#8217;s Musings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you&#8217;re creating something like “Paranormal Activity,” it is typically very difficult to fail cheap while making a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&#8217;re creating something like “Paranormal Activity,” it is typically very difficult to fail cheap while making a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Parag Shah</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parag Shah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I (sometimes) teach programming at a college, and very often get the feeling that if students created their own startup and worked on it for 2 years, they would learn much more than a college ed, and may even have a viable business after those 2 years.

If a person is not entrepreneurial they can even create their own micro-businesses like making iPhone apps, etc.

Would like to know your thoughts...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I (sometimes) teach programming at a college, and very often get the feeling that if students created their own startup and worked on it for 2 years, they would learn much more than a college ed, and may even have a viable business after those 2 years.</p>
<p>If a person is not entrepreneurial they can even create their own micro-businesses like making iPhone apps, etc.</p>
<p>Would like to know your thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what you&#039;re running into is the intersection between what people want their identities to be, and what they actually want to do. Sometimes that lines up, often it contradicts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you&#8217;re running into is the intersection between what people want their identities to be, and what they actually want to do. Sometimes that lines up, often it contradicts.</p>
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		<title>By: Re-definition &#171; Brooks (Like Garth)</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Re-definition &#171; Brooks (Like Garth)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] blog actually led me to the post that inspired me to start today. I haven&#8217;t read much of Charlie&#8217;s blog, and hadn&#8217;t heard of him until today. It [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog actually led me to the post that inspired me to start today. I haven&#8217;t read much of Charlie&#8217;s blog, and hadn&#8217;t heard of him until today. It [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brettcrudgington</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brettcrudgington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried a music marketing internship for about 2 months, starting this past January, trying to give myself an opportunity to flesh out some of your ideas, Seth&#039;s, etc. that I&#039;ve been reading. It was low key, didn&#039;t cost me anything, and gave me a direct opportunity to really see how well (or not so well) some of these new marketing strategies can be applied within an actual firm. After the two months, I realized that while the stuff I was doing was cool, it didn&#039;t really give me that spark of interest that kinda grabs you by the balls. I&#039;ve tried lots and lots of different things in school and out, and I&#039;ve realized that only actually practicing and making music gives me that insatiable feeling. 

Whatever. The point is, I could walk away knowing I had only invested the time and energy at my own volition, and had learned some great stuff about marketing and my own interests.

So you are absolutely right, sir. Great post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried a music marketing internship for about 2 months, starting this past January, trying to give myself an opportunity to flesh out some of your ideas, Seth&#8217;s, etc. that I&#8217;ve been reading. It was low key, didn&#8217;t cost me anything, and gave me a direct opportunity to really see how well (or not so well) some of these new marketing strategies can be applied within an actual firm. After the two months, I realized that while the stuff I was doing was cool, it didn&#8217;t really give me that spark of interest that kinda grabs you by the balls. I&#8217;ve tried lots and lots of different things in school and out, and I&#8217;ve realized that only actually practicing and making music gives me that insatiable feeling. </p>
<p>Whatever. The point is, I could walk away knowing I had only invested the time and energy at my own volition, and had learned some great stuff about marketing and my own interests.</p>
<p>So you are absolutely right, sir. Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: charhoehn@gmail.com</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charhoehn@gmail.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I called my friend an idiot to their face, and proceeded to rant about what they should do instead.  Although it may be hard to believe, my real-life conversations rarely end with me saying, &quot;You should really check out my blog.&quot; :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called my friend an idiot to their face, and proceeded to rant about what they should do instead.  Although it may be hard to believe, my real-life conversations rarely end with me saying, &#8220;You should really check out my blog.&#8221; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://charliehoehn.com/2009/07/08/fail-cheap/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you give your friend this advice? Or direct him to this blog to let him know your thoughts? Just curious.

Sometimes people just don&#039;t know the steps they need to take and a friend&#039;s advice is all they need to guide them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you give your friend this advice? Or direct him to this blog to let him know your thoughts? Just curious.</p>
<p>Sometimes people just don&#8217;t know the steps they need to take and a friend&#8217;s advice is all they need to guide them.</p>
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