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		<title>Outside Influences</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to present like Steve Jobs.  I want to live like Tim Ferriss.  I want to talk like Larry David.  I want to have honest, moving work like Ricky Gervais.  I want to make observations like Seth Godin.  I want to start a business like Ben Casnocha.  I want to read more than Ryan [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=charliehoehn.com&amp;blog=3908906&amp;post=67&amp;subd=charliehoehn&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to present like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ntLGOyHw4">Steve Jobs</a>.  I want to live like <a href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/06/14/how-to-do-the-impossible-create-a-paperless-life-never-check-voicemail-again-never-return-another-phone-call/">Tim Ferriss</a>.  I want to talk like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHuNNslDowU">Larry David</a>.  I want to have honest, moving work like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQAr_AjZt-E">Ricky Gervais</a>.  I want to make observations like <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/01/the-problem-wit.html">Seth Godin</a>.  I want to start a business like <a href="http://ben.casnocha.com/2007/05/how_to_start_a_.html">Ben Casnocha</a>.  I want to read more than <a href="http://www.ryanholiday.net/archives/entries/ryan_clark_holiday_book_list_1.phtml">Ryan Holiday</a>.  I want to have financial wisdom like <a href="http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-dont-have-any-secrets-about-getting-rich">Ramit Sethi</a>.  I want to think like <a href="http://www.powerseductionandwar.com/archives/only_the_dull_a.phtml">Robert Greene</a>.  I want to tell jokes like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfan5MacmsI">Patton Oswalt</a>.  I want to have an extreme lifestyle like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Strauss">Neil Strauss</a>.  I want to play guitar like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xZw9D9c18E">John Butler</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31QQ1gNpAaY">Monte Montegomery</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC60XNiS-MQ">Paul Gilbert</a>.  I want to invent like <a href="http://www.inventright.com/">Stephen Key</a><a href="http://www.jasonmulgrew.com/main/2004/07/20/"></a>.  I want to write lyrics like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amwVyRH2B8A">Brett Dennen</a>.  I want to be an undiscovered genius like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kennedy_Toole">John Kennedy Toole</a>.  I want to muse like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Vonnegut">Kurt Vonnegut</a>.  I want to be fearless like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RQmnSJoRg">Bill Hicks</a>.  I want to have a vision for changing the world like <a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#larry">Larry and Sergey</a>.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s influenced you?</p>
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		<title>Bill Hicks and Marketing</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to hate that I was studying marketing, and I didn&#8217;t really know why until I heard an old Bill Hicks bit: By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing&#8230; kill yourself&#8230; No really, there&#8217;s no rationalization for what you do and you are Satan&#8217;s little helpers. Okay &#8211; kill yourself [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=charliehoehn.com&amp;blog=3908906&amp;post=3&amp;subd=charliehoehn&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to hate that I was studying marketing, and I didn&#8217;t really know why until I heard an old Bill Hicks bit:</p>
<blockquote><p>By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing&#8230; kill yourself&#8230;</p>
<p>No really, there&#8217;s no rationalization for what you do and you are Satan&#8217;s little helpers.  Okay &#8211; kill yourself &#8211; seriously.  You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously.  No this is not a joke, you&#8217;re going, &#8220;there&#8217;s going to be a joke coming,&#8221; there&#8217;s no fucking joke coming.  You are Satan&#8217;s spawn filling the world with bile and garbage.  You are fucked and you are fucking us.  Kill yourself.  It&#8217;s the only way to save your fucking soul, kill yourself&#8230;</p>
<p>I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, &#8220;Oh, you know what Bill&#8217;s doing, he&#8217;s going for that anti-marketing dollar.  That&#8217;s a good market, he&#8217;s very smart.&#8221;&#8230;Goddamnit, I&#8217;m not doing that, you scum-bags!   Quit putting a goddamn dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet!</p></blockquote>
<p>I was actually embarrassed the first time I heard that routine a few years ago.  Obviously, there are immoral people in every occupation, but marketing seemed inherently immoral.  I saw it as an unnecessary evil.  I was upset that I&#8217;d chosen marketing as a major, because I thought it clashed with my ethics. Marketing, to me, was the way businesses manipulated the masses into buying things they didn&#8217;t need.</p>
<p>Luckily, that&#8217;s when I started reading Seth Godin&#8217;s work.  All of his ideas made sense to me, and better yet, he emphasized treating consumers as people &#8211; nothing else.  He stressed the importance of building a meaningful relationship with someone so that they&#8217;ll want to do business with you.  Seth doesn&#8217;t want products to cater to the masses.  He knows everyone is different, so a company should cater its services to the customers they&#8217;d choose (if they <span style="font-style:italic;">could</span> choose their customers).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really excited to be a part of Seth&#8217;s virtual intern group.  I&#8217;ll be posting my thoughts on it periodically on here.</p>
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